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if she had gone ahead, sir, and said the cia -- and revealed al qaeda, right? the change in the script essentially, the talking points. don't say al qaeda, say extremists. if she had gone ahead and said i know some classified information, let's say al qaeda, wouldn't that have been even more devastating? wouldn't that have been a bigger problem? wouldn't they be after her for that today? >> well, the truth is always what should be told. the truth and the knowledge of the truth is what everybody should represent, regardless of the consequences of doing it. >> so i guess i don't hear the same calls for the head of someone. i don't hear the same frustration with the cia, which has said that they were the ones who wrote the talking points. i don't hear the same frustration even with the president who said the buck stops with him. i don't hear the same frustration with hillary clinton. will you, in fact -- or even general petraeus, now that this scandal has cost him -- another scandal has cost him his job. it all seems to be falling in the lap of the ambassador of t
if she had gone ahead, sir, and said the cia -- and revealed al qaeda, right? the change in the script essentially, the talking points. don't say al qaeda, say extremists. if she had gone ahead and said i know some classified information, let's say al qaeda, wouldn't that have been even more devastating? wouldn't that have been a bigger problem? wouldn't they be after her for that today? >> well, the truth is always what should be told. the truth and the knowledge of the truth is what...
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now she also said that the cia and the cia has come out publicly and said that the cia took those classified points out about the al qaeda attack. so what ambassador rice was really left with was all this information about the spontaneous attack and nothing about those terrorist elements. let me read to you a little bit of what ambassador rice issued in a statement yesterday. she said we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community, the initial assessment upon which they were based, were uncorrect in one key respect, there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we concernly wish that we had perfect information just days off the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. so certainly the senators are saying we have more questions than answers. but they're also saying, in a position such as secretary of state, which we all know that ambassador rice is the leading contender for at this point, given the vociferous defense by the white house, in a job such as secretary of state, you really have to ask the tough question
now she also said that the cia and the cia has come out publicly and said that the cia took those classified points out about the al qaeda attack. so what ambassador rice was really left with was all this information about the spontaneous attack and nothing about those terrorist elements. let me read to you a little bit of what ambassador rice issued in a statement yesterday. she said we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community, the initial assessment upon which...
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our thanks to jennifer youngblood from the cia for getting us that formal comment from the cia. it remains to be seen how many more comments they may have to make if this thing gets into court. >>> i started gymnastics when i was 9 years old and i was watching the 1984 olympics and it spoke to me as if it was like broadcasted directly to me. i immediately took the cushions off the couch and started flipping around. >> joseph putignano's start into gymnastics got serious after that. at the olympic training center just two years later he realized he had a natural gift. but his need to perform perfectly took over his life. >> for me it kind of became a darkness that i have to be perfect. >> reporter: that's where his downward spiral began. >> i had my first drink and all that desire for me to be perfect and to be the best was just washed away in a moment. >> reporter: within months things got worse. >> i was drinking and using prescription drugs and a lot of cocaine. and it was that thing where i came to a crossroads where it was like i can't use and perform, so something's gotsome
our thanks to jennifer youngblood from the cia for getting us that formal comment from the cia. it remains to be seen how many more comments they may have to make if this thing gets into court. >>> i started gymnastics when i was 9 years old and i was watching the 1984 olympics and it spoke to me as if it was like broadcasted directly to me. i immediately took the cushions off the couch and started flipping around. >> joseph putignano's start into gymnastics got serious after...
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they say they later heard from the cia that he had quote, misspoken and the cia was, in fact, responsible. so what's going on here? cnn intelligence correspondent suzanne kelly has been working her sources. she's joining us now. suzanne, you just got a statement from the cia. what are they saying? >> reporter: actually, i've gotten this statement from an intelligence official who told me it was in fact the cia that made the changes which is more or less what the intelligence community has been saying from the beginning, that this was a collaborative effort within the intelligence community to get their language straight and that the reasons they were doing it had to do with, as you know, classified sources. i can read you what the u.s. intelligence official has just told me. there were literally just coming in on my phone. there were several valid intelligence and investigatory reasons why that was changed. the information linked to al qaeda was derived from classified sources and could not be corroborated at the unclassified level. it made sense to be cautious before naming the perpetrat
they say they later heard from the cia that he had quote, misspoken and the cia was, in fact, responsible. so what's going on here? cnn intelligence correspondent suzanne kelly has been working her sources. she's joining us now. suzanne, you just got a statement from the cia. what are they saying? >> reporter: actually, i've gotten this statement from an intelligence official who told me it was in fact the cia that made the changes which is more or less what the intelligence community has...
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. >> i am more troubled today, after meeting with the director of the cia and ambassador rice because it's essential clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> i specifically asked her whether at any point prior to going on the sunday morning television show, she was briefed or... urged to say certain things by anybody in the white house, relate to the campaign or political operations. she said, no, she was not given messaging points at all by the white house, prior to her appearance on those sunday morning shows. >> it is clear that the informs that she gave the american people was incorrect when she said that it was a spontaneous demonstration ib spired by a hateful video. it was not. and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case. >> bottom line, i am more disturbed now than i was before the 16th september... explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice. i think it does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight, clearly
. >> i am more troubled today, after meeting with the director of the cia and ambassador rice because it's essential clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> i specifically asked her whether at any point prior to going on the sunday morning television show, she was briefed or... urged to say certain things by anybody in the white house, relate to the campaign or political operations. she said, no, she was...
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michael hirsh said the cia had their own facility there. if the cia was holding prisoners there, they would not want that story coming out? guest: that is right. it has been denied that there were libyan prisoners held at what is believed to be this cia facility or a safe house, but we do not know the truth and we may never know it. host: lloyd, a republican caller. caller: i think they should stop focusing on susan rice, and focus on why i voted the way i did -- was the president aware of requests for additional security? i cannot believe the president of the united states is not briefed on hot spots and why the request would not have made it. let's forget about susan rice. the way i voted the way i did is i do not believe the president was not aware of it. i believe the cover up takes place right there, and now because the president was reelected and i support him fully, he keeps saying focus on me, and that is what they should do, and if there is justice in the world there might be impeachment down the road -- down the road. guest: i did
michael hirsh said the cia had their own facility there. if the cia was holding prisoners there, they would not want that story coming out? guest: that is right. it has been denied that there were libyan prisoners held at what is believed to be this cia facility or a safe house, but we do not know the truth and we may never know it. host: lloyd, a republican caller. caller: i think they should stop focusing on susan rice, and focus on why i voted the way i did -- was the president aware of...
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at 4:00 in the afternoon the cia acting director came back and said it was at cia after all. what explains that? >> this stuff is coming from the white house. they are hoping this will go away. i don't happen to be one of the senators she cares to talk about and maybe it's because while opposed to her from her position as ambassador of the united nations and nothing could change my mind on that. bill: based on that answer it appears you are willing to take that answer higher than susan rice with it comes to benghazi. >> this will go down as the biggest coverup in history. they all knew it. they are hoping to have it go beyond the election date which it did. but people are not going to forget it. the administration deliberately covered this and misrepresented what happened in benghazi threatened up in the both of four people. one of whom was a good friend of mine, ambassador stevens. bill: the biggest coverup in american history. >> yes, sir. bill: when senator lieberman came out yesterday afternoon --'s listed as an independent. but he seemed to take more of a sill sill tory
at 4:00 in the afternoon the cia acting director came back and said it was at cia after all. what explains that? >> this stuff is coming from the white house. they are hoping this will go away. i don't happen to be one of the senators she cares to talk about and maybe it's because while opposed to her from her position as ambassador of the united nations and nothing could change my mind on that. bill: based on that answer it appears you are willing to take that answer higher than susan...
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threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> -- that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi, and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. senator john mccain, lindsey graham and senator ayotte left the meeting, here's the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> i'm more disturbed now than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations, and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i'm more troubled today because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> well, then we go back to michael here. what i'm hearing today is ambassador ric
threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> -- that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi, and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. senator john mccain, lindsey graham and senator ayotte left the meeting, here's the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are...
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are they saying she should have given the unclassified version of the report she was given by the cia? then that would have been criticized. >> you're unfit because you're imparting secrets. >> exactly. >> rice was able to win over someone, joe lieberman. take a listen. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16th would disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> leishman in the context, he's retiring, he's not going to be around to vote on this. but is he signaling for other democrats basically that she has a clear path if her name does come up for nomination? >> i think that's right. joe lieberman is conservative, a hawk, respected by some senators on foreign policy issues. there may be three republican senators who don't like her, another 97 who have votes, the house members who have been campaigning against her don't have votes. something chip said, it would be weird or odd for this process to be playing out if she is not going to be nominated as secretary of state. chip, it shows i think a real politic
are they saying she should have given the unclassified version of the report she was given by the cia? then that would have been criticized. >> you're unfit because you're imparting secrets. >> exactly. >> rice was able to win over someone, joe lieberman. take a listen. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16th would disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> leishman in the context,...
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i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was wrong and that no one corrected it, including ambassador rice, even though she had left that impression on every single network, op every sunday show. that left me very concerned about that as well. >> did she say to you that she had reviewed intelligence specifically about benghazi, that had the additional information? she couldn't say so publicly. had she reviewed that intelligence? did she affirm that to you or are you assuming that she had? >> she did review it. >> so, in other words, she knew better than what you're saying that she knew better? >> yes. that's one of the questions i have and one of the questions that i didn't feel i got a satisfactory answer to, which is if you knew that even though the classified version, obviously, had references to al qaeda in it being involved or individuals with ties to al qaeda involved in it, how could you not know when you go on every sunday show and not include that fact that it would le
i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was wrong and that no one corrected it, including ambassador rice, even though she had left that impression on every single network, op every sunday show. that left me very concerned about that as well. >> did she say to you that she had reviewed intelligence specifically about benghazi, that had the additional information? she couldn't...
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. >> based on what she has said as clearly as possible, backed up by the director of the cia, i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said. >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. while we certainly wish we had >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. joining me now, msnbc's karen finney and howard fineman. howard, what is your understanding of how these meetings actually went today? we got a very little by way of actual reports on what went on there. you've got lindsey graham trying to say something happened in this meeting to make the situation worse. what could that have been? >> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about secur
. >> based on what she has said as clearly as possible, backed up by the director of the cia, i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said. >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. while we certainly wish we had >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. joining me now, msnbc's karen finney and howard fineman. howard, what is your understanding of how these...
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same is true of condoleezza rice who passed on incorrect cia information on weapons of mass destruction in iraq, but was still overwhelmingly confirmed as secretary of state. susan rice is closer to the president than anybody in his cabinet and has been an overachiever for most of her life. high school valedictorian, basketball star, rhodes scholar, rising star in the clinton administration, but she also has a reputation for blunt talk. >> by all accounts, she is talented, capable, and extremely abrasive. >> reporter: in the 2008 campaign she ridiculed hillary clinton's foreign policy experience and called john mccain reckless and confused. if the president does nominate her, those who know susan rice well say she's more than up for the fight, and although it would be a bruising confirmation battle, she almost certainly would have the votes to be confirmed. jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >>> interesting parallel that story points out between condoleezza, confirmation process, and this one. "the washington post," interesting profile, i like the human nuggets they find. as u.n. amba
same is true of condoleezza rice who passed on incorrect cia information on weapons of mass destruction in iraq, but was still overwhelmingly confirmed as secretary of state. susan rice is closer to the president than anybody in his cabinet and has been an overachiever for most of her life. high school valedictorian, basketball star, rhodes scholar, rising star in the clinton administration, but she also has a reputation for blunt talk. >> by all accounts, she is talented, capable, and...